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  • #31
    Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
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    The Israelis have only been spared annihilation by employing the 'you hit me I'll hit you twice as hard' policy...
    "twice as hard" do you say? Have you been watching the news? Over 100 deaths of Palestinians (75% children, women, and civilians minding their own business in their own homes) have been caused by shelling from the Israeli navy and bombing by the Israeli air force. Not a single Israeli has been killed in the meantime. You call this hitting "twice as hard"? What do you take us for?

    Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
    ...they quite rightly take no prisioners.
    On the contrary, the entire Palestinian population of Gaza and the Occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are prisoners of Israel.

    Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
    Unfortunately ordinary decent Palestinian people are being used as pawns in a dirty Jihadi war.
    Your concern for the persecuted Palestinians is not evident from your portrayal of the Israelis having the right to violate international law.

    Approximately 300,000 Palestinian civilians have been warned to leave their homes in preparation for another Israeli massacre like the one of December 2008/January 2009 which will be termed a "war" by the Israelis although there will be no battles.

    As an occupying power, Israel cannot claim a right to self defense while refusing to honor its obligation to protect innocent civilians. There is such a thing as humanitarian law which requires an army to make a distinction between combatants and civilians, such as infants. Proportionality is also recognized as a humanitarian response to attack as well as the necessity to use military force. Collectively punishing the entire Palestinian population under blockade with nowhere to go is not necessary to defend Israelis from ineffective rockets. It would be more appropriate and effective for Israel to stop the occupation/blockade and begin to respect the rights of Palestinians to freedom in their own country. What we are witnessing is an Israeli war crime.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Korky View Post
      "twice as hard" do you say? Have you been watching the news? Over 100 deaths of Palestinians (75% children, women, and civilians minding their own business in their own homes) have been caused by shelling from the Israeli navy and bombing by the Israeli air force. Not a single Israeli has been killed in the meantime. You call this hitting "twice as hard"? What do you take us for?


      On the contrary, the entire Palestinian population of Gaza and the Occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are prisoners of Israel.


      Your concern for the persecuted Palestinians is not evident from your portrayal of the Israelis having the right to violate international law.

      Approximately 300,000 Palestinian civilians have been warned to leave their homes in preparation for another Israeli massacre like the one of December 2008/January 2009 which will be termed a "war" by the Israelis although there will be no battles.

      As an occupying power, Israel cannot claim a right to self defense while refusing to honor its obligation to protect innocent civilians. There is such a thing as humanitarian law which requires an army to make a distinction between combatants and civilians, such as infants. Proportionality is also recognized as a humanitarian response to attack as well as the necessity to use military force. Collectively punishing the entire Palestinian population under blockade with nowhere to go is not necessary to defend Israelis from ineffective rockets. It would be more appropriate and effective for Israel to stop the occupation/blockade and begin to respect the rights of Palestinians to freedom in their own country. What we are witnessing is an Israeli war crime.
      It's all tragic.... but, for the end result of the bigger picture and the lesser of two evils I back Israel every time.

      As you read this Hamas is vowing to open “the gates of hell” on Israel. Why ?
      Who started it ....yet again ? you know.....the anti western Jihadist.
      We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Korky View Post
        "twice as hard" do you say? Have you been watching the news? Over 100 deaths of Palestinians (75% children, women, and civilians minding their own business in their own homes) have been caused by shelling from the Israeli navy and bombing by the Israeli air force. Not a single Israeli has been killed in the meantime. You call this hitting "twice as hard"? What do you take us for?
        Someone should talk to the lunatics who don't care for the people they represent.....if they're set on firing rockets from built up areas as part of their strategy.....should the Israelis simply let them open “the gates of hell” on them ? That is not going to happen.....The Israelis will stop when the 100's of rockets stop and there is a change of attitude on the part of Hamas and their Jihadi buddies ........

        On the contrary, the entire Palestinian population of Gaza and the Occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are prisoners of Israel.
        If what you say is right.....ask yourself......who's fault is that ?

        Your concern for the persecuted Palestinians is not evident from your portrayal of the Israelis having the right to violate international law.
        All countries have a right to stop madmen assaulting them.

        Approximately 300,000 Palestinian civilians have been warned to leave their homes in preparation for another Israeli massacre like the one of December 2008/January 2009 which will be termed a "war" by the Israelis although there will be no battles.
        What is Hamas and the Jihadis doing about that ? ....priming a few hundred more rockets ?

        As an occupying power, Israel cannot claim a right to self defense while refusing to honor its obligation to protect innocent civilians. There is such a thing as humanitarian law which requires an army to make a distinction between combatants and civilians, such as infants.
        And do Hamas and cohorts abide by that ? I don't think so.

        Proportionality is also recognized as a humanitarian response to attack as well as the necessity to use military force. Collectively punishing the entire Palestinian population under blockade with nowhere to go is not necessary to defend Israelis from ineffective rockets.
        Stop the rockets ! eh.

        It would be more appropriate and effective for Israel to stop the occupation/blockade and begin to respect the rights of Palestinians to freedom in their own country. What we are witnessing is an Israeli war crime.
        Maybe Hamas and their madcap buddies will learn to respect the rights of the Jews and stop acting like idiots.....how many times must they put their finger in the fire.
        We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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        • #34
          Pictures of Israelis applauding and cheering as they watch rocket attacks on Gaza

          Twitter pictures of Israelis applauding and cheering as they watch rocket attacks on Gaza cause outrage.

          It is Twitter pictures like this one of Israelis applauding and cheering as they watch rocket attacks on Gaza that have caused outrage across the world.

          The photo posted by a Danish journalist shows Israelis who gathered on a hill to watch and celebrate as Gaza was bombed on Wednesday.

          Allan Sørensen, the Middle Eastern correspondent for the Danish newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad, took the image in Sderot, a city about two kilometres from Gaza.

          The newspaper’s follow-up article on Friday described the scene in details where over 50 people had gathered for a “party.”

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          • #35
            pictures won the war for the North Vietnamise


            But, the American public were not at risk from daily barrages of rockets......

            I believe that ''isolating the Israeli's'' will only make them more determined......

            For them....it is a matter of ''existance''......
            Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
              Someone should talk to the lunatics who don't care for the people they represent.....if they're set on firing rockets from built up areas as part of their strategy.....should the Israelis simply let them open “the gates of hell” on them ? That is not going to happen.....The Israelis will stop when the 100's of rockets stop and there is a change of attitude on the part of Hamas and their Jihadi buddies ........

              If what you say is right.....ask yourself......who's fault is that ?

              All countries have a right to stop madmen assaulting them.

              What is Hamas and the Jihadis doing about that ? ....priming a few hundred more rockets ?

              And do Hamas and cohorts abide by that ? I don't think so.




              Stop the rockets ! eh.

              Maybe Hamas and their madcap buddies will learn to respect the rights of the Jews and stop acting like idiots.....how many times must they put their finger in the fire.
              I fail to see why....''stop sending rockets over''....is so difficult to understand....
              Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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              • #37
                They are trying to exterminate the Palestinian people so that they can have more "Libensraum". They are no better than the people who tried to exterminate them in WWII. They are perpetrating Holocaust II on the world but nothing is being done because they finance the American political system.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by quinner View Post
                  I fail to see why....''stop sending rockets over''....is so difficult to understand....
                  That's right...That would stop retaliation as it did in the past....but when you are dealing with a fanatical regime who's only objective is to wipe you off the face of the earth....not just Jews, but Christians as well.....There's just no answer to that is there............

                  Here's a snippet from the Hamas Charter....bearing in mind they are part of the Muslim Brotherhood of Jihadi fanatics....and some ppl are fooled by their tactics of deliberately using children as fodder in their 'holy' war ?.

                  Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
                  [Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.” From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem. Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it. But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed. Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance. And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120 There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game. As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.” (Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)

                  Pity the world has left these murderers in the dark ages......
                  We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                  • #39
                    And Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood ?
                    People should be aware of this crap....Don't give them an inch....they mean it.

                    • The Brotherhood’s goal is to turn the world into an Islamist empire. The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928, is a revolutionary fundamentalist movement to restore the caliphate and strict shariah (Islamist) law in Muslim lands and, ultimately, the world. Today, it has chapters in 80 countries.
                    “It is in the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.” —Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna

                    • The Brotherhood wants America to fall. It tells followers to be “patient” because America “is heading towards its demise.” The U.S. is an infidel that “does not champion moral and human values and cannot lead humanity.” —Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010

                    • The Brotherhood claims western democracy is “corrupt,” “unrealistic.” and “false.”
                    —Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef

                    • The Brotherhood calls for jihad against “the Muslim’s real enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Waging jihad against both of these infidels is a commandment of Allah that cannot be disregarded.” —Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010

                    • The Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 for making peace with the hated “Zionist entity.” It also assassinated Egypt’s prime minister in 1948 and attempted to assassinate President Nasser in 1954.

                    • Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter, Chapter 2. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy.

                    • The Brotherhood supports Hezbollah’s war against the Jews. Brotherhood leader Mahdi Akef declared he was “prepared to send 10,000 jihad fighters immediately to fight at the side of Hezbollah” during Hezbollah’s war against Israel in 2006

                    • The Brotherhood glorifies Osama bin Laden. Osama is “in all certainty, a mujahid (heroic fighter), and I have no doubt in his sincerity in resisting the occupation, close to Allah on high.” —Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, Nov. 2007

                    • The Brotherhood “sanctioned martyrdom operations in Palestine.…They do not have bombs, so they turn themselves into bombs. This is a necessity.” — Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Dec. 17, 2010

                    • The Brotherhood advocates violent jihad: The “change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life,” said Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi in a September 2010 sermon. Major terrorists came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, including bin Laden’s deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (mastermind of the 9/11 attacks).
                    We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
                      That's right...That would stop retaliation as it did in the past....but when you are dealing with a fanatical regime who's only objective is to wipe you off the face of the earth....not just Jews, but Christians as well.....There's just no answer to that is there............

                      Here's a snippet from the Hamas Charter....bearing in mind they are part of the Muslim Brotherhood of Jihadi fanatics....and some ppl are fooled by their tactics of deliberately using children as fodder in their 'holy' war ?.

                      Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
                      [Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.” From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem. Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it. But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed. Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance. And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120 There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game. As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.” (Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)

                      Pity the world has left these murderers in the dark ages......

                      well, I wont read all that.......can you not just tell them to stop firing rockets into Israel.......everybody with a grain of sense know that Israel will shoot back....

                      And, if people are in the way, they will get killed.....

                      Now, never mind Allah....Quinner knows best.....
                      Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
                        And Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood ?
                        People should be aware of this crap....Don't give them an inch....they mean it.

                        • The Brotherhood’s goal is to turn the world into an Islamist empire. The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928, is a revolutionary fundamentalist movement to restore the caliphate and strict shariah (Islamist) law in Muslim lands and, ultimately, the world. Today, it has chapters in 80 countries.
                        “It is in the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.” —Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna

                        • The Brotherhood wants America to fall. It tells followers to be “patient” because America “is heading towards its demise.” The U.S. is an infidel that “does not champion moral and human values and cannot lead humanity.” —Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010

                        • The Brotherhood claims western democracy is “corrupt,” “unrealistic.” and “false.”
                        —Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef

                        • The Brotherhood calls for jihad against “the Muslim’s real enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Waging jihad against both of these infidels is a commandment of Allah that cannot be disregarded.” —Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi, Sept. 2010

                        • The Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 for making peace with the hated “Zionist entity.” It also assassinated Egypt’s prime minister in 1948 and attempted to assassinate President Nasser in 1954.

                        • Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter, Chapter 2. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy.

                        • The Brotherhood supports Hezbollah’s war against the Jews. Brotherhood leader Mahdi Akef declared he was “prepared to send 10,000 jihad fighters immediately to fight at the side of Hezbollah” during Hezbollah’s war against Israel in 2006

                        • The Brotherhood glorifies Osama bin Laden. Osama is “in all certainty, a mujahid (heroic fighter), and I have no doubt in his sincerity in resisting the occupation, close to Allah on high.” —Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, Nov. 2007

                        • The Brotherhood “sanctioned martyrdom operations in Palestine.…They do not have bombs, so they turn themselves into bombs. This is a necessity.” — Muslim Brotherhood Spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Dec. 17, 2010

                        • The Brotherhood advocates violent jihad: The “change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life,” said Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Badi in a September 2010 sermon. Major terrorists came out of the Muslim Brotherhood, including bin Laden’s deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (mastermind of the 9/11 attacks).
                        well, if you want to ''Dominate the World''.......sending a few hundred apparently badly aimed Rockets into Israel......is not what I would call a ''good start''.....
                        Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by quinner View Post
                          well, I wont read all that.......can you not just tell them to stop firing rockets into Israel.......everybody with a grain of sense know that Israel will shoot back....And, if people are in the way, they will get killed.....
                          Now, never mind Allah....Quinner knows best.....
                          Seems straight forward to most.....except one thing....The Brotherhood says "There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad". So how can you deal with that kind of nutter talk eh
                          We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                          • #43
                            All this week the Israeli armed forces have been targeting civilian areas of Gaza. This makes Israel a terrorist state.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by quinner View Post
                              well, if you want to ''Dominate the World''.......sending a few hundred apparently badly aimed Rockets into Israel......is not what I would call a ''good start''.....
                              It's OK...the pro palestinian lobby will fight for your right to send rockets whenever and wherever, because you are an oppressed ppl.....WHY are you an oppressed ppl ?......Well maybe this has something to do with it;

                              Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter, Chapter 2. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy.

                              The Jews do not take kindly to messers, they will fight fire with fire and trounce you if you threaten them.....it's the way others have made them.
                              We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Korky View Post
                                All this week the Israeli armed forces have been targeting civilian areas of Gaza. This makes Israel a terrorist state.
                                well, I suppose the Palestine army have been attacking the IDF......
                                Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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