Government Crime: Naked Body Scanners

[Capt Patch]

Pornographyy ??

"government perverts gloating over pornographic images of air line customers, including the naked images of children" ... Cam O'Flage

Thundering Jazus Cam yer at it again !!

I understand Pornography to be the lewd portrayal of the naked body engaged in some form of sex act ? Naked bodies, be they male, female or child are just that ..... naked bodies with all our warts and fat etc. .... no sin there, as this is the body that nature gave us. Posed naked bodies in natural or even unnatural positions is considered by most to be Art !

So where the hell do you get the idea that scans (negative or otherwise) of Joe and Jane Public walking or standing are pornographic ? Maybe it's yer poor self that gets excited by what you might see and if that's how you get yer jollies, why don't you apply for a job running one of those scanners ?

I agree that the USA's paranoia over anything that even remotely seems treatning is ruining the freedoms that most of us know and they could do with a good dose of British stoicism .... where for the most part they (the Brits) ignored the treats and got on with the business of living.

Please stop yer half truths and mad rantings as your only giving the likes of me an excuse to rant back at ye.

[Mykidsmom]

well i donno...i hope they can only see bones and not bits of flab.

[boxman]

well i donno...i hope they can only see bones and not bits of flab.

No no if you see bones you've gone too far. They need to see what's under yer clothes or shoved you know where..or there even!

[Mykidsmom]

well god help them if they scan me heheheh....they'll resign and say the job is too stressful lol..

[Camouflage]

I dont give a flying feck about scanners and me as pure liberal who has even been accused of being a communist by some people. It is only a few weeks ago that a plane was targetted by your man with the bomb in his y fronts. If scanners are the answer, then so what?

An incident masterminded and instigated by the CIA to soften up public opinions on scanners. Less than 20 minutes after the incident FOX News announced that the scanners will now go in, in spite of the fact that Congress voted against them. The "underwear bomber" was a false flag operation.
Resist the scanners. Boycott air lines wherever possible and engage in legal protests outside their offices.

[Camouflage]

Now Liz don't be silly, there's no terrorists at all. Apparently it was all a hoax, there's nobody trying to kill us at all...phew!

Look, let's face it. There is a risk in anything we are doing. There are people out there, in particular in Islamic countries, trying to attack and hurt us whereever they can. But the 'terroist threat' picture the government has been painting since 9/11 doesn't reflects reality.
What happened to Osama bin Laden? My guess is as good as yours and I am guessing that he is either dead or hiding out in a CIA safe house. And those videos turning up every few months showing bin Laden making more threats against America and other western countries? A joint Mossad/CIA operation with one of their middle-eastern / Arabic-looking agents dressing up as bin Laden, making outlandish threats which will then be used by the CIA, DHS and other (un)inteligence agencies throughout the western world to push in the name of safety for further restrictions of the few fragments of civil rights we still have left anywhere in the western world.

The scanners would be preferable to what we go through now....and, that's not even being singled out either. Belts off, scarves off, boots off, coat off, laptop outta its case.....six bins going through the x=ray machine it took to lay all my stuff out for scanning when I just visited my sister for Christmas.

About 30 minutes before I arrived at the airport on the 25th they just caught that guy with the fireworks in his undies....the scanning lines were really really slow from there on out.

Not all scans involve radiation....like ultrasound. The old days are gone, and if I don't care to drive, this is reality.

Reality is that we shouldn't put up with any curtailments of our civil rights based on government deception and false flag operations. Nothing what you mention above should be regarded as acceptable by airline customers.

[Camouflage]

"government perverts gloating over pornographic images of air line customers, including the naked images of children" ... Cam O'Flage

Thundering Jazus Cam yer at it again !!

I understand Pornography to be the lewd portrayal of the naked body engaged in some form of sex act ? Naked bodies, be they male, female or child are just that ..... naked bodies with all our warts and fat etc. .... no sin there, as this is the body that nature gave us. Posed naked bodies in natural or even unnatural positions is considered by most to be Art !

So where the hell do you get the idea that scans (negative or otherwise) of Joe and Jane Public walking or standing are pornographic ? Maybe it's yer poor self that gets excited by what you might see and if that's how you get yer jollies, why don't you apply for a job running one of those scanners ?

I agree that the USA's paranoia over anything that even remotely seems treatning is ruining the freedoms that most of us know and they could do with a good dose of British stoicism .... where for the most part they (the Brits) ignored the treats and got on with the business of living.

Please stop yer half truths and mad rantings as your only giving the likes of me an excuse to rant back at ye.

You are from Brisbane, and you Californians seem to have a different perspective on matters related to sexual activities and that's the reason why the porn industry has relocated to CA. Most people are not aware of it, but the production of x-rated material is illegal in most other states.

I think we should look in the Bible for guidance on nudity and the production of nude images.
Several actions concerning nakedness (outside marriage where the bed is undefiled - Hebrews 13:4) are condemned in the Bible:

1. It is a shame and wrong to uncover your nakedness to others. The priests were warned to wear undergarments so that their nakedness would not be discovered when they went up the steps to the altar in their robes. Their undergarments (linen breeches) were to cover from their loins (waist) to their thighs (Exodus 28:42). When the children of Israel made and worshipped the golden calf, Aaron "made them naked unto their shame" (Exodus 32:25). Isaiah 47:3 speaks of the shame of having your nakedness uncovered.
2. It is a sin to uncover the nakedness of another. This is seen as leading to other sins (see Leviticus 18:6-18).
3. It is wrong to look on the nakedness of others. Ham's son was cursed because Ham saw the nakedness of his father and went and talked about it (Genesis 9:22-23). Habakkuk 2:15 speaks of the wickedness of those who get someone drunk in order to "look on their nakedness."

[Red Biddy]

The British government admitted a couple of days ago that in order to be effective those scans have to show all the details, including those of our private parts. Or why else do you think the UK government first has to change the laws dealing with child pornography before these scanners can be introduced?
Thank you for identifying yourself as a (former) employee of Goldman Sachs, currently the leading banking institution in the world. I could also mention Wells Fargo, Citibank and various European institutions as well. Yes, they make up the World Government. Private bankers, counterfeiters controlling the flow and distribution of worthless money no longer backed by gold through the Federal Reserve in America, Central Bank of Ireland, Bank of England and Bundesbank in Ireland, UK and Germany. The Federal Reserve, Central Bank of Ireland, French National Bank, German Bundesbank, etc, are not government institutions but private counterfeiting rings controlling and manipulating the governments. But since you work(ed) for Goldman Sachs, I am sure you knew this already.

I actually was ready for throwing the towel in here, but one of the moderators dropped me a couple of PMs a few days ago asking me to reconsider my "resignation" .

I see no reason for complaining about your message to the moderators, since you are perfectly entitled to your opinion. Don't worry, we will be revisiting the RC Church and their role in the NWO sooner than later.

And yes, the NWO / One world government exists. Rockefeller, Rothchild and a host of other top NWO players openly wrote about it in books. These books are available online, in your local high street book store and from public libraries. The truth is out there for everybody to discover. They don't even bother any longer to hide their criminal intent.

private parts. Mine were in proper the last time I looked

[Rashers]

I think we should look in the Bible for guidance on nudity

Psalms?

Song of Solomon?

I could go on.....

I think the bible is a poor choice for guidance... too many contradictions in it.

[Capt Patch]

I think we should look in the Bible for guidance on nudity and the production of nude

Cam, why in the name of all that's holy would any sane person use the bible (at best 1400 yrs out of date) as a reference to anything in today's world.?

As a collection of stories and parables it's a good read but I'd no more guide my life by it than I would use the Kama Sutra as my defining guide to sex.!! There is some good advice in both but there is a lot that is not relevant to my life style BUT I don't feel the need to draw anyon's attention to either book on a daily or wvwn monthly basis.

You must wake up terrified each morning worrying where the next strike from the government is coming from ..... me ..... I awake each day and wonder what new discoveries and excitement awaits me. I think you need to get out more and smell the roses.

[Bang Bang]

You must wake up terrified each morning worrying where the next strike from the government is coming from ..... me ..... I awake each day and wonder what new discoveries and excitement awaits me. I think you need to get out more and smell the roses.[/QUOTE]

I have a vision of a very scared man, his Flat/Apartment lined with tinfoil and polysterene in an attempt to keep out the signals emanating from the New World Order's Communications base ( which we all know is concealed within the Hill of Tara and manned by leprechauns whose loyalty to the Catholic Church goes back to the time when St. Patrick lit the Paschal Fire there in 342 AD)

I respect your devotion to Martin Luther, although I personally despise ANY religion that preaches hatred of the Jews, or anybody else. ( In our wide-ranging discussions on Monday last, for instance, I mentioned to Kevin that I had worked closely with a colleague for 11 years until a chance remark revealed that he was Protestant and I was Catholic.)

Lest you think that the preceeding sentence indicates that this information affected our working relationship, let me assure you it made absolutely no difference. The point I was making was that, in my time, how you got on with people had nothing to do with what religion they were.

Every man has the right to march to the beat of his own drummer, ( provided that march does not lead him to act against people who follow a different drummer ).

In one of those quirky twists that occur when Dubliners meet, it transpired that both Kevin and I had known a gentleman of the Jewish Faith in past decades and both of us had fond memories of him.

Save your rancour against the people of Islam who are Fundamentalists and carry out acts of atrocity that the vast number of Muslims find incompatible with their religion. Stop thinking that every Catholic has a communication device concealed on his/her person that delivers he/she orders direct from the Pope. ( I personally, have not spoken with the Holy Pontiff for at least 10 days )

PS; You are aware, I assume, that, in the year 1505, Martin Luther was struck by lightening ?
Is it possible that this was an attempt by the Holy See to gain control of his father's copper mines?

Since you have indicated that there is a possibility that you may be stock-piling weapons in Fort Wolverine, would you feel offended if I have a word in the ear of some members of the ERU?

[Camouflage]

You must wake up terrified each morning worrying where the next strike from the government is coming from ..... me ..... I awake each day and wonder what new discoveries and excitement awaits me. I think you need to get out more and smell the roses.

I have a vision of a very scared man, his Flat/Apartment lined with tinfoil and polysterene in an attempt to keep out the signals emanating from the New World Order's Communications base ( which we all know is concealed within the Hill of Tara and manned by leprechauns whose loyalty to the Catholic Church goes back to the time when St. Patrick lit the Paschal Fire there in 342 AD)

I respect your devotion to Martin Luther, although I personally despise ANY religion that preaches hatred of the Jews, or anybody else. ( In our wide-ranging discussions on Monday last, for instance, I mentioned to Kevin that I had worked closely with a colleague for 11 years until a chance remark revealed that he was Protestant and I was Catholic.)

Lest you think that the preceeding sentence indicates that this information affected our working relationship, let me assure you it made absolutely no difference. The point I was making was that, in my time, how you got on with people had nothing to do with what religion they were.

Every man has the right to march to the beat of his own drummer, ( provided that march does not lead him to act against people who follow a different drummer ).

In one of those quirky twists that occur when Dubliners meet, it transpired that both Kevin and I had known a gentleman of the Jewish Faith in past decades and both of us had fond memories of him.

Save your rancour against the people of Islam who are Fundamentalists and carry out acts of atrocity that the vast number of Muslims find incompatible with their religion. Stop thinking that every Catholic has a communication device concealed on his/her person that delivers he/she orders direct from the Pope. ( I personally, have not spoken with the Holy Pontiff for at least 10 days )

PS; You are aware, I assume, that, in the year 1505, Martin Luther was struck by lightening ?
Is it possible that this was an attempt by the Holy See to gain control of his father's copper mines?

Since you have indicated that there is a possibility that you may be stock-piling weapons in Fort Wolverine, would you feel offended if I have a word in the ear of some members of the ERU?[/QUOTE]

Howdy BangBang,
no, I am definitely not one of those wearing tinfoil hats I can assure you. Might work for UFOs, but wouldn't do much good against the NWO thugs.

I am not a clear cut Lutheran, but my family background is Lutheran. Our family Bible ia a copy of the 1560 Geneva Bible, a version given to us by the great reformers , and not the commonly used King James version.

I think I mentioned it before in here. I have major issues with the Catholic hierarchy - that lot in Rome, but not with ordinary good Catholic folks like yourself. I regard people like yourself as my brothers and sisters in Christ.

I regard Martin Luther's reformation process as a step into the right direction, but I do not share his viewpoints about Jews. I have met many Jews in the US, even prayed with them a couple of times in synagogues. I am fully supporting Israel (the people, not the government) in their fight against those of their neighbors and leftist western governments trying to take their land promised and given to them by our common god. The Jews are our elder brothers, and I regard a collective attack on them as an attack on me . Therefore I do share your concern about Islamic extremists.

Yes, I do own a number of guns. But they are stored at home in the US. It's in an area where "open carry" is completely legal and very common. I also have "concealed carrying" permits for two other states. I know Irish gun laws, even took legal advice on this a few years ago, and came to the conclusion that I can not bring my guns to Ireland. Even bringing them to Germany would be extremely difficult.
And these restrictions are one of several reasons why I may put my house here in Ireland on the market in the not too distant future. I used to travel to and fro quite a bit, but I have to consider my economical situation, and of course all the difficulties imposed on travelers by the government(s) (the very topic of this thread), based on some sick desire to control and enslave the world population, using false flag operations to do so.

[Bang Bang]

I have a vision of a very scared man, his Flat/Apartment lined with tinfoil and polysterene in an attempt to keep out the signals emanating from the New World Order's Communications base ( which we all know is concealed within the Hill of Tara and manned by leprechauns whose loyalty to the Catholic Church goes back to the time when St. Patrick lit the Paschal Fire there in 342 AD)

I respect your devotion to Martin Luther, although I personally despise ANY religion that preaches hatred of the Jews, or anybody else. ( In our wide-ranging discussions on Monday last, for instance, I mentioned to Kevin that I had worked closely with a colleague for 11 years until a chance remark revealed that he was Protestant and I was Catholic.)

Lest you think that the preceeding sentence indicates that this information affected our working relationship, let me assure you it made absolutely no difference. The point I was making was that, in my time, how you got on with people had nothing to do with what religion they were.

Every man has the right to march to the beat of his own drummer, ( provided that march does not lead him to act against people who follow a different drummer ).

In one of those quirky twists that occur when Dubliners meet, it transpired that both Kevin and I had known a gentleman of the Jewish Faith in past decades and both of us had fond memories of him.

Save your rancour against the people of Islam who are Fundamentalists and carry out acts of atrocity that the vast number of Muslims find incompatible with their religion. Stop thinking that every Catholic has a communication device concealed on his/her person that delivers he/she orders direct from the Pope. ( I personally, have not spoken with the Holy Pontiff for at least 10 days )

PS; You are aware, I assume, that, in the year 1505, Martin Luther was struck by lightening ?
Is it possible that this was an attempt by the Holy See to gain control of his father's copper mines?

Since you have indicated that there is a possibility that you may be stock-piling weapons in Fort Wolverine, would you feel offended if I have a word in the ear of some members of the ERU?

Fair enough, Camo. I wouild not dare to disagree with you.

I can certainly appreciate paranoia. Some A**hole has removed one of my posts.

[Camouflage]

Psalms?

Song of Solomon?

I could go on.....

I think the bible is a poor choice for guidance... too many contradictions in it.

Cam, why in the name of all that's holy would any sane person use the bible (at best 1400 yrs out of date) as a reference to anything in today's world.?

As a collection of stories and parables it's a good read but I'd no more guide my life by it than I would use the Kama Sutra as my defining guide to sex.!! There is some good advice in both but there is a lot that is not relevant to my life style BUT I don't feel the need to draw anyon's attention to either book on a daily or wvwn monthly basis.

You must wake up terrified each morning worrying where the next strike from the government is coming from ..... me ..... I awake each day and wonder what new discoveries and excitement awaits me. I think you need to get out more and smell the roses.

Please folks, do not dismiss the Bible - the word of God. It is the most comprehensive history book of mankind, a blueprint for living and even a guide for things too come in the not to distant future. We are standing on the brink of Armageddon . Electronic surveillance and micro-chipping has been predicted in the Bible as The Mark of the Beast. The current wars in the middle east, in particular if Israel should fall, herald the coming reign of the Anti-Christ.
I don't know what the government is planning next, but I would reckon a guess and predict that further onslaughts on the traditional family, including brutal enforcement of a 'one child per couple' policy may not be too far off. Not only in China, but here in the US, Ireland, Germany and other western countries as well. People will be permitted just one child. Home schooling will be banned and parents will be forced to fully vaccinate kids before sending them to school . Traditional Christian or Jewish education will be outlawed as well. Women getting pregnant for a second time will be forced to have an abortion, payed for with tax payers' money. If you consider my predictions as way out, then look at some of the statements Obama made and the bills he supported bordering on infanticide during his term in the Ill Senate. Nowadays this man is sitting in the White House surrounded by ungodly haters of traditional family values.

[Rashers]

Some A**hole has removed one of my posts.[/I][/B]

The only ones who can remove a post are moderators, none of whom to my knowledge would care to be referred to as above. I believe we treat everyone with equal respect.

If you tell me which post it is (something of it's content perhaps) I may be able to restore it if it hasn't been removed for offensive content.

I'm sure the moderator who removed it will have notified you regarding the post in question.