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Old 02-12-2017, 08:41 PM
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So how will the UK, and Ireland for that matter keep illegal immigrants out...??

Surely the main reason behind Brexit for the British people, was the large numbers of immigrants pouring into the UK. If we in the South of Ireland leave the backdoor open for vast numbers of illegal immigrants to continue doing so, then I believe the UK have a right to try to secure their borders. The border is not a SPOT on the road just south of Newry, it's 500 klms of open countryside between the north and south.
Even if we accept (and there are many who wouldn't) that the Leave result in last year's referendum was largely due as a reaction against illegal immigration, then you'd have to question the logic of voting for Brexit in those circumstances - EU nationals are not and were not 'illegal immigrants'.

Secondly, Ireland and the UK are outside of the Schengen area - foreign nationals including EU citizens have to produce their passports at Heathrow or Dublin and this was not about to change with Brexit. The CTA or common travel area between the two countries was and is able to operate on the basis that both countries operated external border controls so in effect covered each other's territories for illegal immigration. It's worth bearing in mind that the great majority of illegal immigrants in Ireland and the UK are people from outside the EU who entered legally - but never left when their visas expired.

The British government and leading Brexit campaigners have maintained from the outset that the CTA will remain intact in the same way it has since 1921 - notwithstanding the fact, as alluded to by yourself, that 'sovereignty and control of the UK borders' was one of the catch calls deployed during the referendum campaign.

One of the more absurd features of recent weeks has been the appearance on the airwaves of figures such as Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Moggs and Jeffrey Donaldson of the DUP arguing that a hard border was never going to be an outcome of Brexit- unless the Irish were the ones to erect it.!! Whatever happened to 'control of the UK borders' etc ??
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:20 AM
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Even if we accept (and there are many who wouldn't) that the Leave result in last year's referendum was largely due as a reaction against illegal immigration, then you'd have to question the logic of voting for Brexit in those circumstances - EU nationals are not and were not 'illegal immigrants'.
I didn't say the leave result was a reaction to illegal immigration....read my post again...
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So how will the UK, and Ireland for that matter keep illegal immigrants out...??

Surely the main reason behind Brexit for the British people, was the large numbers of immigrants pouring into the UK.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:01 AM
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Interesting ten days....
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Interesting ten days....
Were you covering the events for the Eagle?
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Were you covering the events for the Eagle?
Yep..hard to keep up.

And yerself... brought in extra Eire correspondents ?
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Yep..hard to keep up.

And yerself... brought in extra Eire correspondents ?
I don't have the budget for that......
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I don't have the budget for that......
Get a few interns .
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I have never read anywhere of how the British are going to control illegal immigrants coming across from the Republic . My guess is that its the elephant in the room and without saying so , in case it upsets the DUP , they will check passports in Britain from both Jurisdictions .
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