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Originally posted by quinner View Posti think that the country should only have 12 elected members of parliament.....and be only elected by people over 30....
each county should only have an elected mayor/president......and be only elected by householders.....
There should be one and only one system.
proportional representation....That way you get the ABSOLUTE choice of the PEOPLE and thats what it is all about.................pure and simple.
When your various parties pick their candidates/leaders do you not vote until you get an absolute winner? like we here in canada do?
Then if it is good enough to elect THESE people why is it not good enough for the PEOPLE to elect THEIR representatives??????
Your(british)electoral system is flawed just like our system here in canada is flawed aned needs to be changed to reflect the will of the PEOPLE.
As regards your comments re voting being just for people over 30? Give your head a shake.
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Originally posted by quinner View Posti think that the country should only have 12 elected members of parliament.....and be only elected by people over 30....
each county should only have an elected mayor/president......and be only elected by householders.....May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!
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Originally posted by olddub View PostIf Persons under 30 were denied a vote in elections and only house holders were allowed to vote in county elections and these members of the population denied ,this would disenfranchise a majority of citizens, and if this majority paid income and other taxes this would constitute Taxation without representation , or are you advocating non house holders and people under 30 should be exempt from taxation.......
od....yes, i would be very happy with that.....that of course would be direct taxation.....up to say, £40,000...Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!
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Originally posted by quinner View Postod....yes, i would be very happy with that.....that of course would be direct taxation.....up to say, £40,000...May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!
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Originally posted by olddub View PostWould not this system of nonrepresention be classed as a elitist dictatorship and operate in direct opposite to a democracy ,or a sort of despotic state where money buys power with the majority having no voice or any possibility of changing the status quo , methinks a form of governance by these methods would be prone to overthrow by an unrepresented and discriminated population and be a recipe for conflict in a world with too much conflict and not enough harmony an respect for human values......
the present system has got us in the shoite.....and if we carry on as we are...
the future doesn't bear thinking about.....
my object wouls be to get long term thinking into the equasion......
we have just been through the biggest boom in history.......it ended with a sick joke by the outgoing government.......we are skint, or words to that affect..
if that is success....well, i fail to see it...Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!
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Originally posted by quinner View Posta very nice post od.......
the present system has got us in the shoite.....and if we carry on as we are...
the future doesn't bear thinking about.....
my object wouls be to get long term thinking into the equasion......
we have just been through the biggest boom in history.......it ended with a sick joke by the outgoing government.......we are skint, or words to that affect..
if that is success....well, i fail to see it...May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!
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Originally posted by olddub View PostI say with no disrespect to yourself ,that mindset is exactly what brought about the rise of the Third Reich and what a disaster that was for the world....
but don't worry o.d......nobody listens to old quinner....lolHere Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!
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Originally posted by quinner View Postagain..when did i stop.....?.
accepting the present....cancels out the future....
what the hell does that mean? The future's going to happen anyway, unless
"accepting the present" means pressing the button, which it doesn't.
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Originally posted by quinner View Postit is also the mother of invention.....which created the world that we know today.....
but don't worry o.d......nobody listens to old quinner....lolMay You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!
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Originally posted by KatieMorag View PostI didn't say you'd stopped....it's continuous. "accepting the present" etc...
what the hell does that mean? The future's going to happen anyway, unless
"accepting the present" means pressing the button, which it doesn't.
children growing up......singing rhymes about the imf.....
you can be as rude as you like.....that does not change the facts.....
i am not a paid, or prospective politician......i am a poster...that's all....lolHere Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!
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