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  • #31
    Originally posted by sheelbee View Post
    I have them on average 3 times a week, I find mornings are best...
    OOOOOPS, bloody new glasses, elections !!!!!!!!!!
    Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is mystery, Today is a gift.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by sheelbee View Post
      OOOOOPS, bloody new glasses, elections !!!!!!!!!!
      the chinese are very lucky.....they have viagra to help them with elections...

      and i believe they can be very picky at party's..
      Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by quinner View Post
        i think that the country should only have 12 elected members of parliament.....and be only elected by people over 30....

        each county should only have an elected mayor/president......and be only elected by householders.....
        problem with that is the old axiom that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly.
        There should be one and only one system.
        proportional representation....That way you get the ABSOLUTE choice of the PEOPLE and thats what it is all about.................pure and simple.

        When your various parties pick their candidates/leaders do you not vote until you get an absolute winner? like we here in canada do?
        Then if it is good enough to elect THESE people why is it not good enough for the PEOPLE to elect THEIR representatives??????
        Your(british)electoral system is flawed just like our system here in canada is flawed aned needs to be changed to reflect the will of the PEOPLE.

        As regards your comments re voting being just for people over 30? Give your head a shake.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by quinner View Post
          i think that the country should only have 12 elected members of parliament.....and be only elected by people over 30....

          each county should only have an elected mayor/president......and be only elected by householders.....
          If Persons under 30 were denied a vote in elections and only house holders were allowed to vote in county elections and these members of the population denied ,this would disenfranchise a majority of citizens, and if this majority paid income and other taxes this would constitute Taxation without representation , or are you advocating non house holders and people under 30 should be exempt from taxation.......
          May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by olddub View Post
            If Persons under 30 were denied a vote in elections and only house holders were allowed to vote in county elections and these members of the population denied ,this would disenfranchise a majority of citizens, and if this majority paid income and other taxes this would constitute Taxation without representation , or are you advocating non house holders and people under 30 should be exempt from taxation.......

            od....yes, i would be very happy with that.....that of course would be direct taxation.....up to say, £40,000...
            Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by quinner View Post
              od....yes, i would be very happy with that.....that of course would be direct taxation.....up to say, £40,000...
              Would not this system of nonrepresention be classed as a elitist dictatorship and operate in direct opposite to a democracy ,or a sort of despotic state where money buys power with the majority having no voice or any possibility of changing the status quo , methinks a form of governance by these methods would be prone to overthrow by an unrepresented and discriminated population and be a recipe for conflict in a world with too much conflict and not enough harmony an respect for human values......
              May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by olddub View Post
                Would not this system of nonrepresention be classed as a elitist dictatorship and operate in direct opposite to a democracy ,or a sort of despotic state where money buys power with the majority having no voice or any possibility of changing the status quo , methinks a form of governance by these methods would be prone to overthrow by an unrepresented and discriminated population and be a recipe for conflict in a world with too much conflict and not enough harmony an respect for human values......
                a very nice post od.......

                the present system has got us in the shoite.....and if we carry on as we are...

                the future doesn't bear thinking about.....

                my object wouls be to get long term thinking into the equasion......

                we have just been through the biggest boom in history.......it ended with a sick joke by the outgoing government.......we are skint, or words to that affect..

                if that is success....well, i fail to see it...
                Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by quinner View Post
                  a very nice post od.......

                  the present system has got us in the shoite.....and if we carry on as we are...

                  the future doesn't bear thinking about.....

                  my object wouls be to get long term thinking into the equasion......

                  we have just been through the biggest boom in history.......it ended with a sick joke by the outgoing government.......we are skint, or words to that affect..

                  if that is success....well, i fail to see it...
                  I say with no disrespect to yourself ,that mindset is exactly what brought about the rise of the Third Reich and what a disaster that was for the world....
                  May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by olddub View Post
                    I say with no disrespect to yourself ,that mindset is exactly what brought about the rise of the Third Reich and what a disaster that was for the world....
                    it is also the mother of invention.....which created the world that we know today.....

                    but don't worry o.d......nobody listens to old quinner....lol
                    Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                    • #40
                      Guys, I think Quinner is trying to be controversial....again.......

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by KatieMorag View Post
                        Guys, I think Quinner is trying to be controversial....again.......
                        again..when did i stop.....?.

                        accepting the present....cancels out the future....
                        Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by quinner View Post
                          again..when did i stop.....?.

                          accepting the present....cancels out the future....
                          I didn't say you'd stopped....it's continuous. "accepting the present" etc...
                          what the hell does that mean? The future's going to happen anyway, unless
                          "accepting the present" means pressing the button, which it doesn't.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by quinner View Post
                            it is also the mother of invention.....which created the world that we know today.....

                            but don't worry o.d......nobody listens to old quinner....lol
                            I am not sure what you mean (the mother of of invention) . The world was created by what?? despotism created nothing but strife ....
                            May You Be In Heaven Before The Devil Knows You're Dead!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by KatieMorag View Post
                              I didn't say you'd stopped....it's continuous. "accepting the present" etc...
                              what the hell does that mean? The future's going to happen anyway, unless
                              "accepting the present" means pressing the button, which it doesn't.
                              yes, but what future.......begging off the chinese for money so your children can go to hospital...

                              children growing up......singing rhymes about the imf.....

                              you can be as rude as you like.....that does not change the facts.....

                              i am not a paid, or prospective politician......i am a poster...that's all....lol
                              Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                              • #45
                                [QUOTE=quinner;197250]i am not a paid, or prospective politician......

                                Thank Christ for that.

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