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  • #16
    Originally posted by cogito View Post
    They're three deep at the bar of Myos in Castleknock... the international liberal elite. That's probably how Leo got roped in...
    I remember somebody saying the same about Bartley Dunne's.....they described the people in there being ''bumper to bumper''......
    Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bojangles View Post
      Wendy Grace

      August 22 2017 2:30 AM



      I used to admire Leo Varadkar. He had a reputation for speaking his mind. He wasn't afraid to stray from the herd, even if party grandees weren't always pleased.

      That maverick streak made him a darling of the media and the obvious choice of successor to Enda Kenny for FG TDs and senators eager to hoover up any swing voters they could.

      But in everything he does and says these days he seems to cosy up to the media and other people whom he thinks will keep him in power.

      How ironic. You get to the top because you were independent-minded, and you try to stay on top by acting as a stooge.

      The recent diplomatic manoeuvres between Varadkar and Canadian leader Justin Trudeau are an example. We're not talking about a partnership of equals here. It's about the pluming and grooming of Varadkar by an international liberal elite of which Trudeau is the political poster-boy.

      Trudeau is the anti-Trump. He represents the views of well-funded international elitists who want to get certain things done in the world. One of those things is the internationalisation of unrestricted abortion as a supposed 'human right'. Canada has a frightening law on abortion, in fact it has no law restricting the procedure at any stage over the nine months of pregnancy.

      I have recently gone through the joys, fears and challenges of expecting a baby. The complexity of my child's life and development from his earliest days in my womb has been a wonder to me. I see with fresh eyes what must be the injustice of even an early-term abortion where a baby like mine, with tiny but fully formed limbs, with a beating heart since 21 days of life, could be destroyed at 10 or 12 weeks of pregnancy. I shudder at the later-term abortions which Canada allows and Trudeau champions.

      It takes an injection of poison into the baby's heart, or something even more horrifying, to take away life at that point.

      So I find it galling that Mr Trudeau would be the one to start the conversation with our Taoiseach about abortion, and that Leo would simply let him.

      The killing of an unborn child is neither a 'human rights' or a 'women's rights' issue as Trudeau claims.

      Abortion is the negation of human rights, and the power to tell a doctor or other person to kill and remove (or remove and let die) the child in your womb does nothing for the rights of any woman.

      Leo says he's pro-life. He certainly used to be. Like everyone else, he deserves to be judged by his actions. So far, everything he says seems designed to placate radical pro-abortion lobbyists at home and abroad. In the North recently, he told activists wearing Repeal jerseys that they'd have a referendum (even though the Oireachtas committee set up to consider the Citizens' Assembly Report has barely begun its meetings). And, as if to please his host in Canada, Varadkar announced that Ireland would hold a referendum on the issue in the first half of 2018.

      Why wasn't he the one challenging Trudeau about abortion? Where was his outrage about what Canada does to pre-born children who are not wanted? What about the 491 Canadian children from 2000 to 2009 who survived botched abortion procedures and so were ignored by hospital staff and simply left to die?

      Where was his defence of Ireland's law, of how the Irish people and not some parliamentary elite voted in 1983 to protect both unborn children and their mothers, how we've had a safety record in protecting women during pregnancy that is as good if not better than Canada, and that, while 20pc of pregnancies in Canada are aborted, Ireland has one of the lowest rates in the world? Why couldn't Leo have told Trudeau that our laws have actually saved lives?

      My guess is it's because he has fallen into the trap of others before him, and is only listening to those who shout loudest, which at the moment is the people chanting the 'Repeal' mantra.

      But has Leo met the families who have received the tragic diagnosis that their unborn baby had a life-threatening condition, and who believe that legal protection and social respect for such children is key to the best outcomes for such children and their families? Has the Taoiseach met, or even heard of Women Hurt, a group of women who regret their abortions and who are at best ignored or at worst stigmatised when they try to tell their stories?

      Our Taoiseach used to have the capacity to champion people like that.

      Now he engages in gimmickry like exchanging socks and uttering platitudes to people with no regard for the right to life of babies in the womb.

      If this goes on, I hope my boy goes into politics some day and really socks it to him.

      Wendy Grace is a freelance journalist and broadcaster with Spirit Radio

      Irish Independent
      Good piece, Bo. Although I've mellowed somewhat in my views on abortion in the last few years (I used to be vehemently against even first-trimester abortion) I still find the idea of late abortion repugnant, but I'm usually too scared of being labelled a right-wing nutjob to come out and say so.......respect to Ms Grace........

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      • #18
        Wendy Grace is a broadcaster with Spirit Radio so her article will come as no surprise to me anyway.

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        • #19
          good article depending on where you stand...but fortunately opinions are like arseholes we all have one....and isnt it wonderful the countries we live in allow us these opinions.. we are very lucky.

          Deffo not wise to practice corruption openly quinner...but hey this seems to be the way of the world now....theyre not even bothering to hide it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bojangles View Post
            Wendy Grace

            August 22 2017 2:30 AM



            I used to admire Leo Varadkar. He had a reputation for speaking his mind. He wasn't afraid to stray from the herd, even if party grandees weren't always pleased.

            That maverick streak made him a darling of the media and the obvious choice of successor to Enda Kenny for FG TDs and senators eager to hoover up any swing voters they could.

            But in everything he does and says these days he seems to cosy up to the media and other people whom he thinks will keep him in power.

            How ironic. You get to the top because you were independent-minded, and you try to stay on top by acting as a stooge.

            The recent diplomatic manoeuvres between Varadkar and Canadian leader Justin Trudeau are an example. We're not talking about a partnership of equals here. It's about the pluming and grooming of Varadkar by an international liberal elite of which Trudeau is the political poster-boy.

            Trudeau is the anti-Trump. He represents the views of well-funded international elitists who want to get certain things done in the world. One of those things is the internationalisation of unrestricted abortion as a supposed 'human right'. Canada has a frightening law on abortion, in fact it has no law restricting the procedure at any stage over the nine months of pregnancy.

            I have recently gone through the joys, fears and challenges of expecting a baby. The complexity of my child's life and development from his earliest days in my womb has been a wonder to me. I see with fresh eyes what must be the injustice of even an early-term abortion where a baby like mine, with tiny but fully formed limbs, with a beating heart since 21 days of life, could be destroyed at 10 or 12 weeks of pregnancy. I shudder at the later-term abortions which Canada allows and Trudeau champions.

            It takes an injection of poison into the baby's heart, or something even more horrifying, to take away life at that point.

            So I find it galling that Mr Trudeau would be the one to start the conversation with our Taoiseach about abortion, and that Leo would simply let him.

            The killing of an unborn child is neither a 'human rights' or a 'women's rights' issue as Trudeau claims.

            Abortion is the negation of human rights, and the power to tell a doctor or other person to kill and remove (or remove and let die) the child in your womb does nothing for the rights of any woman.

            Leo says he's pro-life. He certainly used to be. Like everyone else, he deserves to be judged by his actions. So far, everything he says seems designed to placate radical pro-abortion lobbyists at home and abroad. In the North recently, he told activists wearing Repeal jerseys that they'd have a referendum (even though the Oireachtas committee set up to consider the Citizens' Assembly Report has barely begun its meetings). And, as if to please his host in Canada, Varadkar announced that Ireland would hold a referendum on the issue in the first half of 2018.

            Why wasn't he the one challenging Trudeau about abortion? Where was his outrage about what Canada does to pre-born children who are not wanted? What about the 491 Canadian children from 2000 to 2009 who survived botched abortion procedures and so were ignored by hospital staff and simply left to die?

            Where was his defence of Ireland's law, of how the Irish people and not some parliamentary elite voted in 1983 to protect both unborn children and their mothers, how we've had a safety record in protecting women during pregnancy that is as good if not better than Canada, and that, while 20pc of pregnancies in Canada are aborted, Ireland has one of the lowest rates in the world? Why couldn't Leo have told Trudeau that our laws have actually saved lives?

            My guess is it's because he has fallen into the trap of others before him, and is only listening to those who shout loudest, which at the moment is the people chanting the 'Repeal' mantra.

            But has Leo met the families who have received the tragic diagnosis that their unborn baby had a life-threatening condition, and who believe that legal protection and social respect for such children is key to the best outcomes for such children and their families? Has the Taoiseach met, or even heard of Women Hurt, a group of women who regret their abortions and who are at best ignored or at worst stigmatised when they try to tell their stories?

            Our Taoiseach used to have the capacity to champion people like that.

            Now he engages in gimmickry like exchanging socks and uttering platitudes to people with no regard for the right to life of babies in the womb.

            If this goes on, I hope my boy goes into politics some day and really socks it to him.

            Wendy Grace is a freelance journalist and broadcaster with Spirit Radio

            Irish Independent
            Not being flippant , but those who want , will .......and those who don't , won't . So, the bottom line, dose this proposed referendum come down to a simple matter of convenience , of course outside of the fact , that sadly some abortions maybe needed [ protection of the life of the mother ] .

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mykidsmom View Post
              yes trudeau always attends...im a trudeau fan i dont think ed is but i forgive him anyways hahahahah
              Helen; you are correct.I am an Independent. If this jerk spent half of the money in Canada and on Canadians as he does on every Liberal photo op issue around the world,our Hospitals would not be short staffed and needing more equipment that has to be paid for by donations.the country would be far better off.All of these joints he funds with borrowed money,is sucked up by all the politicians,and never gets to benefit those most in need.Canadians and Canada first.

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              • #22
                ed hahahaa...while i appreciate your opinion i have to say...last week i ended up in emerge again...top notch treatment and fast...since then ive had every day last week as an outpatient in the cardiac clinic...this week im doing the same in the neuro clinic.....now tell me where on earth id get this treatment for free anywhere else.....my sister in law just moved up the waiting list in dublin that shes been on for 8 years for a bloomin knee..i think we canadians do pretty well....better than most...imagine being in trumpland

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ed O'Gorman View Post
                  Helen; you are correct.I am an Independent. If this jerk spent half of the money in Canada and on Canadians as he does on every Liberal photo op issue around the world,our Hospitals would not be short staffed and needing more equipment that has to be paid for by donations.the country would be far better off.All of these joints he funds with borrowed money,is sucked up by all the politicians,and never gets to benefit those most in need.Canadians and Canada first.
                  I have heard rumours that Canada is starting to regret it adopted the UK type NHS system.....
                  Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                  • #24
                    no way quinner no matter what happens theres always someone bloody complaining ffs. pay no mind

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mykidsmom View Post
                      no way quinner no matter what happens theres always someone bloody complaining ffs. pay no mind
                      Only complaining about the rising costs......they did not expect it to cost so much.......
                      ''they opened a ''can of worms''.......costs are getting out of control....
                      Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                      • #26
                        doesnt cost us anything...as a senior i go to the drug store...pay $2 and get $600 worth of medication..i love canada hahaa my surgeries cost a bit fat Zero....and i had little or no waiting..oh sorry i had to wait 18 hrs once hahhahaa but thats cos it was xmas day

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mykidsmom View Post
                          doesnt cost us anything...as a senior i go to the drug store...pay $2 and get $600 worth of medication..i love canada hahaa my surgeries cost a bit fat Zero....and i had little or no waiting..oh sorry i had to wait 18 hrs once hahhahaa but thats cos it was xmas day
                          LOL....It is what it costs to run it.....Make something free and the crowds appear out of nowhere.....Same happened in the UK since it started in 1949.....
                          Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                          • #28
                            everyone pays a portion of taxes...not noticeable...were on the pigs back hahaa

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mykidsmom View Post
                              everyone pays a portion of taxes...not noticeable...were on the pigs back hahaa

                              Not according to sources........They have regretted following the UK model.....Far too expensive.......

                              Well, I have never been on a pigs back but I have had it free all the time I have been in the UK.....Never used it though until I was well on my way to retiring......

                              Went to the Doctor in 93...He could not find my records....

                              Him.....When was the last time you saw a Doctor..../

                              Me..thirteen years ago........

                              Him...What was that for..?

                              Me..injections to go to Africa, and to register....

                              Him...When was it before that......?

                              Me.....1961 when I had an Army medical......

                              Since 2008 I have had three operations.....All in a Private NHS treatment Centre.......They bill the NHS.....

                              I have decided not too have a fourth one for my Stenosis......
                              Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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                              • #30
                                oh shit ..that stenosis is bad..they thought i have it..i dont though...its lupus related..but when the lupus is in remission im fine....very difficult and painful...do you get something for it...

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