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Old 09-11-2017, 07:21 PM
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i'm still confused, is it a good or bad thing this guy is doing, and what's it got to do with Trump?
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:28 PM
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i'm still confused, is it a good or bad thing this guy is doing, and what's it got to do with Trump?
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Well, it looks like [MBS] is consolidating his power and making sure that there will be no obstacles to him becoming king when his father either dies or abdicates. His father is King Salman, and he’s 81 years old and not in very good health. So I see it as, first, a consolidation of power, but also a trend towards a new style of governance in Saudi Arabia where power is going to be concentrated in one person, whereas previously power was shared among a number of senior princes.
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There’s been some suggestion, including in David Ignatius’ column, that the prince huddled with Jared Kushner, and got some sort of OK from the Trump administration before making these arrests. I don’t know how much you buy that, but how important do you think it is for the Saudis to get the American OK for taking action like this?

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Well, I think the one bit of evidence that would, to me, support that thesis is the fact that Trump took time out on his trip to Asia to call the king and congratulate him on modernization, or the drive for modernization. He didn’t say anything about the arrests, but for Trump to go out of his way while he has North Korea on his mind, to call the king to congratulate him on his progress in modernizing the kingdom, strikes me as really unusual and would suggest or give credence to the thesis that Jared was in Saudi Arabia, at least partly, to support MBS for what they were about to do. He may have been there for other reasons. He’s supposed to be trying to find a solution to the Palestinian problem and the Saudis are important in that issue.
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okay.....so bad, then......
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:58 PM
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I was under the impression that the Saudis would never give a visa to a Jew.Jared Kushner is Jewish.Politics make strange bedfellows.
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okay.....so bad, then......
Well yeah.....a bag o spanners really.....but bad overall id say.......when we look for stability in that neck of the woods the Saudis stand out.....not perfect by a long chalk......but if we're to have them at all....best to have them on side......same as the Israelis ......just my opinion and i know a lot wouldnt agree......but when ye look around the region Who else is their you'd rather be in bed with.
(Note to self; TF quinners not here or id be in for a pasting over saying Israelis were good guys to parley with).
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TF quinners not here or id be in for a pasting over saying Israelis were good guys to parley with).[/QUOTE]

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Heard it said that there are 7-8,000 princes , if you were one of them , would you bother having a 21st .
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Heard it said that there are 7-8,000 princes , if you were one of them , would you bother having a 21st .
Think iv all the prezzies....8000 goodies....datz rapih.
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Heard it said that there are 7-8,000 princes , if you were one of them , would you bother having a 21st .
Twobob; That's a whole lot of inbreed screwing.
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Twobob; That's a whole lot of inbreed screwing.
Not much to do in the desert ......or maybe there is , wink wink .
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