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Eamon De Valera aka George (Edward) de Valero
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We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!
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Moderator note... Final Warning.
The next personal attack in this thread, no matter from who, will either be deleted or moved to the Sinbin.
This interesting thread will not be hijacked just for the sake of making some kind of personal point.
Your decision!'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Originally posted by Rashers View PostModerator note... Final Warning.
The next personal attack in this thread, no matter from who, will either be deleted or moved to the Sinbin.
This interesting thread will not be hijacked just for the sake of making some kind of personal point.
Your decision!
Regarding a merge of dev threads.....is it something the moderators are taking under considerations?
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Originally posted by andy2013 View PostComment on the post and not the poster, above post seems very personalised, back to my original comment that might dispel such personal attacks on members rather than posts, if all dev posts were to be combined.We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!
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Originally posted by andy2013 View PostThanks rashers, and might i suggest in addition to being moved to the sin bin the personal attacker receives a well justified ban.
Regarding a merge of dev threads.....is it something the moderators are taking under considerations?
Though if anyone were to go too far a ban may be considered by the moderators.
But I think and hope it won't be necessary.
When all of the moderators are online we will decide about merging threads.
Thank you for your interest.'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Originally posted by Rashers View PostIts unlikely that anyone would be banned, but an infraction is a possibility.
Though if anyone were to go too far a ban may be considered by the moderators.
But I think and hope it won't be necessary.
When all of the moderators are online we will decide about merging threads.
Thank you for your interest.
Look forward to moderators decision re merging threads,
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Originally posted by KatieMorag View PostHe seems quite an interesting character, but going by this forum more despised than revered......what was the public feeling towards him during the time he was in power, and who would have been the alternative party-wise?
The opposing party was the Cosgrave Government who had taken the ashes of the Civil War - which Mr De Valero has a big hand in - and did a brilliant job of bringing stability to the broken country.
Cosgrave had established a Local Appointments Commission to oversee the recruitment of the right people to the senior civil service posts and local authorities....he set up a system to get rid of jobs for the boys and corruption which had become the norm.
As soon as Dev took control he abolished that Commission and sacked every single person who was not a supporter of his and gave the jobs to his Fianna Fail friends. You could say it was the era of the Dev-il's Cult, when nepotism and cronyism became the norm. Nothing much changed since, what with Haughy and Bertie and of course his party presided over the country while the bankers ripped the working man off big time....not surprising not one of them went to jail.....Voted in again and again indeed he was....but the true colours have finally shone through and the Irish people have finally seen the light.Last edited by DAMNTHEWEATHER; 19-10-2013, 02:13 AM.We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!
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Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View PostWell, if the facts of this very important and interesting individual, a man who had the greatest hand in shaping the fledgling country come across as him being 'despised' then that is of his own making...I have heard a lot of rhetoric here about posters of those facts but nothing substantial to counteract what I have to say.....but maybe that's because what I say is well documented truth.
The opposing party was the Cosgrave Government who had taken the ashes of the Civil War - which Mr De Valero has a big hand in - and did a brilliant job of bringing stability to the broken country.
Cosgrave had established a Local Appointments Commission to oversee the recruitment of the right people to the senior civil service posts and local authorities....he set up a system to get rid of jobs for the boys and corruption which had become the norm.
As soon as Dev took control he abolished that Commission and sacked every single person who was not a supporter of his and gave the jobs to his Fianna Fail friends. You could say it was the era of the Dev-il's Cult, when nepotism and cronyism became the norm. Nothing much changed since, what with Haughy and Bertie and of course his party presided over the country while the bankers ripped the working man off big time....not surprising not one of them went to jail.....Voted in again and again indeed he was....but the true colours have finally shone through and the Irish people have finally seen the light.
The Cult of de Valera had arrived and nepotism and cronyism became the order of the day and the policy of his party which retains it to the present day. One of his first victims was General Eoin O’Duffy, the Commissioner of Police, who had performed a near miracle in establishing order with an unarmed police force in a country awash with guns and men only too willing to use them.
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Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View PostWell, if the facts of this very important and interesting individual, a man who had the greatest hand in shaping the fledgling country come across as him being 'despised' then that is of his own making...I have heard a lot of rhetoric here about posters of those facts but nothing substantial to counteract what I have to say.....but maybe that's because what I say is well documented truth.
The opposing party was the Cosgrave Government who had taken the ashes of the Civil War - which Mr De Valero has a big hand in - and did a brilliant job of bringing stability to the broken country.
Cosgrave had established a Local Appointments Commission to oversee the recruitment of the right people to the senior civil service posts and local authorities....he set up a system to get rid of jobs for the boys and corruption which had become the norm.
As soon as Dev took control he abolished that Commission and sacked every single person who was not a supporter of his and gave the jobs to his Fianna Fail friends. You could say it was the era of the Dev-il's Cult, when nepotism and cronyism became the norm. Nothing much changed since, what with Haughy and Bertie and of course his party presided over the country while the bankers ripped the working man off big time....not surprising not one of them went to jail.....Voted in again and again indeed he was....but the true colours have finally shone through and the Irish people have finally seen the light.
The Cult of de Valera had arrived and nepotism and cronyism became the order of the day and the policy of his party which retains it to the present day. One of his first victims was General Eoin O’Duffy, the Commissioner of Police, who had performed a near miracle in establishing order with an unarmed police force in a country awash with guns and men only too willing to use them.UP THE DUBS!!!
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